The Spy Who Kissed Me cover art
My first book!

I’ve never been a numbers gal. In fact, my friends can tell many mildly amusing stories of my problems with numbers. And a few of my teachers could weigh in, though I don’t think those still living follow my blog (thank goodness! I’m already causing my past science teachers – living and dead – a lot of trauma and heartbreak by writing science fiction).

Well, I wasn’t a numbers gal until I contracted my first book. Then numbers became enormously fascinating (though only adding. Subtracting was a major bummer.). At first it was just simple math. How many books have I sold? Then that stunningly humble moment came when I got my first royalty check. Ouch.

I like to joke (so I won’t cry) that it was easier to write for free than for money.

For a LOT of years.

Only my love of storytelling kept me going.

When I began my publishing adventure (NUD-venture?) in 1998 (yes, I’m that old), I didn’t have a ton of publishing options open to me. Even then, I went around the road block that was traditional publishing by going with a digital publisher LONG before it was cool. I chronicle my early years here, so I won’t do it again (you can thank me in the comments).

So, I was sick for most of January and February and decided to use the down time to look back at my sales numbers for all my books. It was not fun, but it was interesting.

Some background. While I began my publishing adventure with a small, digital-only press, I was able to parley my toe in the door into five contracts with a mid-size traditional press called Five Star. They sold mostly to libraries and the books cost a lot, but they put my books into hard cover, which gave me some street cred, or would that be reader cred? I’m not sure.

The books that followed were published by a variety of small presses. The last was L&L Dreamspell (who closed their doors last July). Prior to L&L shutting down I self published one book.

So here’s the break down (with notations about books with awards and reviews that would impact sales; books in a series also seem to sell better):

Five Star/Small press titles (Update: List price ranged from $25-ish to $5.99-ish, also going to add my average profit per book sold over life of book):

The Spy Who Kissed Me (aka Pig in a Park) (Award-winning; nominated/RT Book Reviews); 1998/2000 ($1.73)

Lonesome Lawmen series:
The Last Enemy (award-winning; reviewed by Booklist/RT Book Reviews); 1999 ($1.49)
Byte Me (nominated); 2001 ($2.79)
Missing You (award-winning; reviewed by Booklist/RT Book Reviews); 2002 ($2.73)

A Dangerous Dance; 2004 ($6.70)

Small press only (prices ranged from 3.99 – 5.99):

Do Wah Diddy Die, 2000 ($1.82)
Out of Time (award-winning); 2005 ($2.94)

Project Enterprise (series):
The Key (award-winning), 2006 ($3.18)
Girl Gone Nova (award-winning), 2008 ($3.91)
Tangled in Time, 2009 ($2.58)
Steamrolled, 2010 ($2.94)
Kicking Ashe, 2012 ($3.12)
Project Enterprise: The Short Stories, 2012 ($1.00 <– this number includes what I made when stories were in publisher anthologies)

Self Published:

Relatively Risky , 2013 ($2.51)

I’m not going to get into why I opted to self publish. This is a post about the numbers. For five books I had traditional publisher “support,” which somewhat impacted the numbers I received advances for those five books. When the first two books earned out, my advance increased some, though the advances were never stellar. L&L also paid modest advances.

Girl Gone Nova cover
This time the impossible might not be possible…

For the most part, the books stayed on sale from release, though there were brief interruptions when I changed publishers.

My most profitable book is: Missing You. (Note that it got a nice boost from a Booklist review and was an RT Book Reviews Reviewer’s Choice winner)

My best-selling book (by the numbers) is: The Last Enemy (also got a Booklist boost and was an RT Book Reviews Reviewer’s Choice winner).

But—and this is where the numbers get interesting, IMHO—the book I earned the most per book was A Dangerous Dance. I got the biggest advance for this book and I made a whopping 6.70 per book. It also came in at #3 on earnings list, though it is far down the list in the number of copies sold. The reason? No Booklist review (doubt it even got sent out for review) and I didn’t push the book at all, because of a disagreement with Five Star, so it didn’t come close to earning out the advance.

After A Dangerous Dance, my best per book number is for Girl Gone Nova—which was small press, then indie published. The Key comes in third for per book profit. In fact, my remaining four traditional-publisher-supported books come in at 6, 7, 11, and 12.

My Project Enterprise series boasts the best per book profit numbers—with most of the money accruing since I went indie.
Also interesting, to me at least, The Key sold less than half the numbers of Missing You, but made more than half the money Missing You made (did I write that right?).

For some reason, Five Star used to include what they made from my sales. I’m not sure if other publishers do this, but I do know it is still depressing to see how much money they made from my books.

What is the takeaway from this long (and author-centric) post? What most authors (traditional and indie) have learned:

  • Series books tend to do better
  • Not a shock that my per book is better for indie books, since I make more per book.
  • While I loved most of my small press publishers, I still have to note that my series did better after I indie published. Some of it was because I’m making more per book, but I also sold more the first few months after going indie. Three of my series appeared on Amazon niche bestseller lists, which kept them visible for longer. Visibility is everything.
  • My sales aren’t close to those being posted by a lot of self published authors, but they are enough that my writing business is self supporting for the first time in my sixteen-year writing NUD-venture. (I did mention that in many ways it was easier to write for free, than for money. Sigh.)
  • I’m happy. There were times when I wasn’t. This business can beat you up pretty bad. But being able to write the books I wanted to write, finding publishers and people who loved them—has been truly amazing. That part has been an AD-venture, not the NUD-venture part.

So, are you still with me? What do you think about my NUD-venture? Am I crazy? Is it what you expected? Are you disillusioned about the “glamorous” life of an author?

You know that all comments are entered into my drawing for an AnaBanana gift basket ($25 value). I announce the winner the first blog post of the new month.

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Perilously yours,


“Readers of romantic suspense novels will certainly not go wrong if they take a trip to New Orleans with Relatively Risky!” LASR

Relatively Risky cover art
A girl. A guy. Bad guys with guns. What could possibly go wrong?

You can now buy my books at most online bookstores.

I Hate Numbers But…My Publishing NUD-venture

14 thoughts on “I Hate Numbers But…My Publishing NUD-venture

  • March 27, 2014 at 11:07 am

    Well done, from another independent author.
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    • March 27, 2014 at 11:22 am

      Thanks, Clare and thanks for stopping by. It was interesting to look at the numbers for each book and see actual book sales and profit per book. Very eye opening. I also love fact that my first novel is still selling and earning me money. Way back when I was told I should leave it in a drawer until I could get a “real” publisher. I think I’ll take the real money instead. LOL

    • March 23, 2014 at 3:52 pm

      Thanks, Charlee. Still mulling them, I will confess. I will say, I’d rather have numbers than not, even if they make me think. LOL

  • March 17, 2014 at 9:49 pm

    Of course you’re crazy. We’re all crazy. And we wouldn’t have it any other way!
    Thanks of the number-crunching. “D
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  • March 17, 2014 at 3:42 pm

    Interesting to read. Self publishing has certainly been more money and less headaches for me and I am thankful I was in a position to leap into it.. While I can’t quit the day job, I can afford the initial output of my next book and am certain I will make the money back, probably within the first month–which makes the following months all profit. In fact, a bad sales month now is still more income than a good month with teeny tiny publishers.

    I’ve dealt with months of no sales, $12 checks, publishers who steal, publishers who close the doors…with no accounting, of course. Publishers who won’t honor their own contracts but also won’t return rights…sigh. Much happier now.
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    • March 17, 2014 at 10:20 pm

      I know what you mean, Melisse. I am so thankful I’d started navigating the learning curve. I was ready when my publisher closed its doors. Frankly, the reason my numbers look as good as they do is because of self publishing. If you aren’t a big seller, you can’t make money splitting your costs with a publisher. IMHO. thanks for stopping by.

  • March 17, 2014 at 12:31 pm

    THanks for sharing your journey. Makes my own bumpy road (right into indie, now considering hybrid) feel like I got going right at the right time, since I suspect I’d have been a “midlister” as a trad pub author, and struggled with some of the same challenges. I’ve done great as an indie, not huge like some but enough to leave one of my day jobs! Did you see this post on my blog?

    It’s scary to look at your “real” numbers. I’m having to do that for a possible new agent and even when you’re making a living at your writing, it’s scary. Thanks for sharing, each of us feels less alone when we share. It’s been great having you in the tribe!
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    • March 17, 2014 at 12:35 pm

      I did see that post! It was a great post! So helpful. I thought about posting my profit per book, but the post was so long, I didn’t. Plus, not sure it is relevant w/o the sales price! Be very glad you’re getting in now and not back when we had so few choices. I can still remember how much I hated that. I’m so grateful for choices and for all the people who helped me at key times, how shared information even if it wasn’t popular or what I wanted to hear. Many thanks for stopping by! Love your tribe. 🙂

    • March 17, 2014 at 12:56 pm

      Okay, I went back in and added my average profit per book. Because it is an interesting number, too. IMHO.

  • March 17, 2014 at 2:46 am

    Numbers…we don’t need no stinking numbers! lol 😉 all we can see is a brilliant woman with a helluva mind that’s produced an impressive list of books that she was able to write from a creative imagination & successfully publish, (whatever avenue you used!) You’ve endured & remained through it all & even found respect in a business that can be tough! It’s clear that your in writing for the love of the craft & passion for a good story! And that makes you our hero!! Great post Pauline & sharing now!! 😉
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    • March 17, 2014 at 8:51 am

      Aw… thank you so much! I’m blushing from head to toe! 🙂 (LOL about the no stinking numbers. I will admit I used to take the “whistling past the graveyars” tack. It was too scary to look. LOL)

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